Win or Die

Nov. 3rd, 2008 11:51 pm
[identity profile] kyrial-arthian.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] westerosorting
A bit of a language warning, but certainly nothing worse than what's found in the books. :P



Name: Kyrial (Kyrie for short)
How did you find out about the community? If it's through an LJ user, please tell us who it is: I was browsing communities with the interest asoiaf, to satisfy my my need for asoiaf in some way besides reading the books yet again.
Age: 23
Location: Florida
Occupation: Unemployed




All About You

1. Describe your ideal house/home. Please go into as much detail as possible, and be sure to include your ideal geographical location in the description!.
Hmmm... reasonably spacious (not huge; I just don't like feeling cramped); cozy/comfortable. As far as location... I'd prefer somewhere that it doesn't get too hot. I don't deal nearly as well with heat as I do with cold (ironic, I know, considering where I live).

2. Name three things you are afraid of. Explain.
-Looking stupid. This is a much deeper fear than I often give it credit for. I'm often afraid of trying new things for fear of looking stupid.
-The thought of never finding true love. It's the one thing I want more than anything else out of life, and the thought of never finding it is very depressing.
-Large bugs. I don't really mind tiny ones like ants or fleas (though they are annoying), but big things like cockroaches really make me freak out, especially if they manage to touch me.

3. What is your favorite aspect of your physical appearance and why?
Hmmm... embarrassing to say, but I'll hafta go with my breasts. They are just the right size.

4. If you could change one thing about your physical appearance, what would you change and why?
My eye color. Brown is a boring eye color. :/

5. Imagine you’re given the classic opportunity: a genie granting you three wishes. What would you wish for? Wishing for more wishes is not permitted!
-At the risk of sounding greedy: an infinite supply of money. I'm really not a very greedy person, but not having to worry about money is just too good to pass up.
-The ability to actually be able to help my friends, rather than just listen to their problems and provide emotional support.
-I know this is a wish genies typically can't/won't grant (or at least not in Aladdin! XD), but... I'd like to at least meet someone I could truly fall in love with, and who would return the feelings.

6. In your life so far, what accomplishment are you the most proud of? You can list more than one if you have trouble deciding. ;)
To be honest, I can't really think of any noteworthy "accomplishments", unless you wanna count something like 'being a good friend' or 'being happy with my life.'

7. Which of the following is most important to you: Love, Money, Knowledge, Family, Friendship, Adventure, or Pleasure? Which is the least important to you?
In order of most important to least important, I'd say: Love, Friendship/Family, Pleasure, Knowledge, Adventure, Money (money funds some of the others, of course, but it is merely a means to an end)

8. What's one quote (or passage, song lyric, etc.) that effectively describes you and your values?
Hmm... I am notoriously bad at these kinda questions. I think I'll just go with Tyrion's "Give me sweet lies, and keep your bitter truths."

9. How do you manage your money? On that note, how important is money/financial security to you?
I tend to be very careful with my spending. I am very good at saving my money. I do splurge on things occasionally, but it is rare.

10. Name (and elaborate on) some of your hobbies. What are your favorite things to do outside of school/the office?
Reading (sometimes books/novels, but mostly fanfiction and webcomics) and videogames (almost exclusively RPGs, which ties into reading :P).

11. Name (and elaborate on) your top three BEST and top three WORST qualities (personality-related, not physical).
BEST QUALITIES
-Optimism. I am certainly known to make pessimistic comments, but I tend to pay a lot more attention to the good than the bad, and I'd say I have a generally optimistic outlook on most things.
-Loyalty. If someone/something has won my friendship/respect/admiration, I am unflinchingly loyal, and will stick up for them against anyone who disrespects/badmouths them.
-Intelligence/Perception. I wouldn't say I'm a genius or incredibly perceptive or anything like that. But I would say I am well above average in terms of intelligence, and I can't be quite perceptive about some things.

WORST QUALITIES
-Laziness. Most of the time when I don't get things done on time (or at all), this is the number one reason. I'm very bad about starting things, though once I do manage to get started and get a bit done, I tend to be very good about sticking to it and getting it done.
-I'm too much of a perfectionist. In some ways this can be good, but it's really a problem a lot of times, because if/when I can't get something just the way I want, I will end up giving up on it, or just generally hating it, even if I shouldn't.
-Somewhat tied in with the two above: I give up on things too easily.





A Song of Ice and Fire Related

1.Which is your favorite book of the series so far? What about your least favorite?
Really hard to pick for both, but I guess I'll say A Storm of Swords is my favorite. For least favorite... I hate to pick one, as I love them all. I guess A Feast for Crows simply for the lack of Dany.

2.Who are your favorite three characters in the series?
As I'm sure everyone says: it's so hard to pick just three! But here goes nothing:

-Daenerys Targaryen - Dany, at least, is an easy choice for favorite. I won't even attempt to go into reasons, for there are far too many, and I'm afraid I'd leave some out on accident.

-Arya Stark - I just have to include Arya on here. From the moment she was introduced, I loved her. I've always had a soft spot for little tomboyish girls who hate "girly" things and have a close relationship with one or more of their brothers (Jon and Arya's relationship makes me smile every time I think about it :)). And as the books go on, I fell in love with her more and more. She is such a badass little girl, yet she still always seems to retain some kind of innocence which can never really be erased from her, only hidden away. I am so glad that she will also be in A Dance with Dragons.

-Tyrion Lannister - I know, I'm picking a lot of commonly loved characters here. But really, who could resist Tyrion? He's so incredibly clever, witty, funny, romantic (secretly, of course), and a shining example of what a good Lannister is like. He's had a shitty life, but he makes the best of it, and is just generally awesome. I really wanna give him a hug. I hope he does find someone who truly loves him!

3.Who are your least favorite three characters in the series?
Perhaps even more than choosing favorites, is choosing least favorites. But here we go:

-Catelyn Stark - Like with above, Catelyn was an easy pick for me. As all-encompassing as my love for Dany is, so too is my hatred for Catelyn. This started early in the first book, when she was being a horrid bitch to Jon. I understand what he represented to her and all, and I can understand some disdain for that. But she goes far, far, FAR beyond that with how she treats him. I wanted to jump into the book and beat some sense into her. That, of course, wouldn't be enough to fuel such hatred for her, since that becomes a non-issue after the beginning of the story (though just thinking about it makes me boil with rage). No, as the books go on, she becomes worse and worse. I was so incredibly happy when she died at the Red Wedding. But no. She had to go and become a zombie and get even worse, if that can be imagined. Ugh. I'm want Dany's dragons to roast her with dragonfire, but that is both too good for her, and would take too long (since it seems like it will still be quite awhile before Dany gets to Westeros).

-Joffery Baratheon (or rather, Lannister! :P) - This little bastard needs little explanation. He really has NO redeeming qualities whatsoever. The best that I could say about him is that he gave Sansa a much needed wake-up call and dragged her out of her fantasy world of the songs, and into the harshness of reality. (A little off-topic here, but I don't dislike Sansa. I have a lot of sympathy for her, as I see some of myself in her. But she really did need to wake up and see reality. I did hate her in the beginning, but really only because of how much of a bitch she was to Arya. But that's enough digression.) Of course, even that he went way too far with. Again, I was extremely happy when he died.

-Gregor Clegane - I was torn between Lysa Arryn and The Mountain That Rides here, but Clegane won out in the end. He's committed so many atrocities in his life, I don't even want to think about it. Dany would have more family if not for him. Sandor wouldn't be such a bitter asshole (I still like Sandor, even if he is a prick XD). Oberyn wouldn't be dead now. Basically, things would be a lot better, I think, if he did not exist. I'm glad Oberyn made him suffer so much before he died.

4.#1 Favorite moment in all of ASOIAF so far?
God, that's a hard question! I think I'll go with when Dany walked into the fire and came out with her dragons. The moment she went from serious badass to legendary badass. XD There are many, many more moments though, that I absolutely love.

5. In your dream-world, how would you like to see the series end?
Well, Dany would of course conquer Westeros and save it from the Others with her dragons, and do her awesome leadership thing. Ideally, her two lovers/dragonriders would be Jon and Arya. Though I feel bad saying that, because Tyrion totally deserves to be one too. But Jon/Dany (and Jon/Arya <.<) seems so perfect and destined, and Dany/Arya is too amazingly awesome/hot for words. Jon/Dany/Arya is my OT3. <3 But.... if they both have to be male, I guess it could be Jon and Tyrion. (Arya still needs to be there with Dany, though!) Arya will of course take out anyone on her list that hasn't already been killed/died in other ways yet. Maybe she could also single-handedly wipe out the Freys. All of them. And of course, magic will come back entirely. I have to wonder about Bran though. I have no idea what he'll do, but I do know it'll be awesome. And he'll marry Meera Reed. Awww, so cute.

Links to at least 3 applications you voted on:

(to be added once applications go up for me to vote on; 1 more needed)
1 - link
2 - link
3 - link

Tyrell

Date: 2008-11-04 06:27 am (UTC)
hamsterwoman: (ASOIAF -- tyrell)
From: [personal profile] hamsterwoman
I definitely see some resemblance to Sansa in the application (in a good way) :) You seem fairly modest in your self-description, and especially your difficulty with listing an accomplishment made me consider Tully for a bit, but I think you're actually a Tyrell. The emphasis on romantic love (it comes up in your fears, wishes, and rankings, and in your ideal ending answers), the importance of friendship (wanting to help your friends through your wishes and in the rankings as well), and both your good and bad traits seem to support Tyrell for me. And you have brown eyes, like them.

Stark

Date: 2008-11-04 07:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dramaturgy.livejournal.com
I'm going with the Tully. Despite your Cat hate, sorry. XD All fishes are not Cat. Or, um. Something.

Greyjoy

Date: 2008-11-04 07:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aryasnow.livejournal.com
You have a lot of Stark, Tully and Tyrell traits.
I go with Tully, even if you like very much a Stark and hate a Tully, and despite your weather preference. The reason is: you talk very much about love, Starks aren't so romantic. You save money and put it as your last value, istead Tyrell like spending money and they are also are very rich.

Actually, not many Tullies are romantic... but they have a higher "degree of romanticism" than Starks (especially because of Lysa, she's veeeery romantic...).

None Yet...

Date: 2008-11-04 09:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scopatz.livejournal.com
I am also going to have to go with Tully. There really are only two houses that would put Love before Family/Friends: the Tullys and the Martells.

That being said, you do list Loyalty as one of your best qualities. This is certainly not a quality of the Martells as they are too independent, both individually and as a Dornish people. However, Loyalty plays a huge factor in the Tullys dealings with other houses.

The fact that you don't like warm temperatures also helps to discount the Martells and the Targaryens.

Re: None Yet...

Date: 2008-11-04 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] esc-key.livejournal.com
There really are only two houses that would put Love before Family/Friends: the Tullys and the Martells.
Huh! Interesting. See, I'd say Tully puts family before love. I guess because I'm thinking "Family" is the first word in their motto (Family. Duty. Honor. with no mention of love). I guess we all have different views of what each house represents!

Re: None Yet...

Date: 2008-11-04 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scopatz.livejournal.com
I dunno. In some cases I feel as if the house words are somewhat outdated for 'modern' Westeros. For instance the Lannister's are "Hear Me Roar", but I think everyone would agree that "A Lannister Pays His Debts" is currently more accurate.

The Tully words may include Family, but I doubt they really mean them. At least not in the sense of absolute duty towards Family like the Starks or Targaryens see it. Lysa Arryn is extremely jealous of her sister. The Blackfish ignores his brother and his orders for marriage for as long as they both live (though this may be because he is gay, but Renly got around this, so no excuses). They are loyal to the family members they love because they love them, not because they are family.

Re: None Yet...

Date: 2008-11-04 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] esc-key.livejournal.com
I think "Hear Me Roar" is still accurate. Lannisters are a very proud and mighty house. They throw their weight around.

Lysa may be jealous of Cat, but she still marriaged Jon Arryn when her father told her to (despite the fact she was clearly in love with Petyr). And, yeah, the Blackfish went against his brother by not marrying but I think the situation would've been different if he had been born first. Hoster wanted to make political alliances, and I don't think Brynden is interested in that. I guess I see a difference between putting family first and doing whatever your father/brother tells you.

I guess I'm thinking more about Cat. Cat didn't know Brandon or Ned and didn't really want to marry either of them but her father told her to and she did because she knew she had to make a good marriage and have children. And she's terribly devoted to her children. Look how crazy she goes when they die!

Targaryen

Date: 2008-11-04 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guad.livejournal.com
Tyrell very much.

Re: Targaryen

Date: 2008-11-04 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guad.livejournal.com
I'm seeing a lot of Tully votes here and feel I should elaborate a bit :)

Tyrells strike me a lot of people who do give on appearances, that fits your fear of looking stupid (as you call it)

Then, giving up early on things as a bad trait is not Tully at all. Blackfish under siege?

Then we had an interesting conversation about Tully / other houses and romance: Tullys are (according to our own fishlies) not romantic or not focussed on romantic love. Tyrells on the other hand are much more, look at Loras!
I'm also pretty sure that Tyrells in peace times are a very happy and great family to live with, which fits your accomplishement of being a happy and optimistic person. Also you put pleasure pretty high up (in third position) which is a Tyrellish thing to do. They do care about family (Queen of Thorns nothing less but murdering the King in order to protect Marg and Loras), and they are loyal in the sense that they will collectively vilify Oberyn for crippling Willas (all except Willas ironically lol)

But well, just my own humble opinion. And in addition you like the Tyrells :D

Martell

Date: 2008-11-04 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devoidofcontent.livejournal.com
Preferring cold made me think Stark, immediately, but everything else on your app screams Tully to me. You're very concerned about finding love and being a good friend, both traits which strike me as Tully-ish. The clincher was your quote - that's so unbelievably pre-Littlefinger Sansa, and I feel she's the most Tully of all the Stark children.

Date: 2008-11-04 02:18 pm (UTC)

Martell

Date: 2008-11-04 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angerfish.livejournal.com
Why do I always forgot to put my house in the subject line?

Stark

Date: 2008-11-04 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyoska.livejournal.com
I'm going to have to go Tyrell.

The Coolest House: Stark

Date: 2008-11-04 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] esc-key.livejournal.com
I see some Tully and Tyrell but your desire to live someplace cold along with your optimsm and loyalty makes me think you're one of the dreamer Starks like Bran or Sansa. So I'm going wtih Stark.

Lannister

Date: 2008-11-04 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plasticactus.livejournal.com
Wow did George just release another spoiler chapter? The first half of this could be written by Sansa Stark and I wouldn't know the difference. Every answer you gave on the "All about you" section simply bubbled with Sansa stew!

Stark

Date: 2008-11-04 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] just-chiara.livejournal.com
I am quite torn between Stark and Tully. You remind me a lot of Sansa, and in a way she is both a Stark and a Tully. In the end, I'm gonna vote Stark, because you also seem to love Arya and Jon, while you hate Catelyn. So, I just think you'd fit better in our pack of wolves.

Date: 2008-11-04 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liaku.livejournal.com
I'm going with the Stark vibe, though I see the Tully too--but if you hate Cat to that degree, I think it's safe to say that you have too many disconnects with the whole Tully creed.

Lannister

Date: 2008-11-04 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] northswainglow.livejournal.com
I definitely see both the Tully and the Stark. You seem very, very much a Sansa, and she's two parts fish, one part wolf herself. Buuuuut ...

I don't think the Tullies OR the Starks think a lot about love. Catelyn was willing to marry men she barely knew without a question because it was her duty. Edmure didn't know Rosalin. Starks and Tullies strike me as the sorts who marry who they should and then grow into love over time. I can't think of one great love story for either of them except Rhaegar/Lyanna, and that's presented as more of an exception.

Now the Tyrells, on the other hand, I've always seen Renly and Loras as being one of the only truly romantic, understanding partnership relationships in all of Martin's writing, the only two who fell in love and were truly happy with one another. Maybe that's just because we don't see them "onscreen," but still. The Tyrell love of all that is cultured and courtly also encourages a tone of romantic love -- think of how Margaery treats Tommen, even though that is a super weird example. You talk so much about love here, it's really something important to you, and I think that the Tyrells get that better than anyone.

And the rest all works great, too. Your Sansa-ness, well, Sansa would be right at hom in Highgarden. I'm often very sad she didn't marry Wilas. I think she would have been truly happy there. And you describe your best traits as optimism and loyalty and perception, and, well, that is right on the button, too. No one is as loyal as a Tyrell, they have one another's backs like no other House in Westeros.

There's a lot of other stuff here, too, but I've already written a small novel. Suffice to say, I think that it would be a crying shame if you didn't get planted with the rest of the roses.

Big, fat Tyrell.
Edited Date: 2008-11-04 05:35 pm (UTC)

Lannister

Date: 2008-11-04 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcandle17.livejournal.com
Tyrell.

But really, who could resist Tyrion?

I can. :) I despise the Imp.

Tyrell

Date: 2008-11-04 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyshobbitlass.livejournal.com
Yes, you're obviously a lot like Sansa. That means to me, usually, that you're NOT very Tully like as Sansa is romantic and idealistic with her feelings, like the Starks whereas Tullys are practical and often able to accept unpleasant truths a lot better than the Starks. I don't think Tyrell either. I think you're a romantic, idealistic, righteous Stark. Like Sansa, Robb or Ned. That's why you love Arya and Jon so much, they are your kin.

Martell

Date: 2008-11-04 06:49 pm (UTC)
ext_2023: (dance with me)
From: [identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com
You're romantic like a Stark, like the others said, you reminded me a bit of Sansa Stark.

the best sort of Tully

Date: 2008-11-04 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skyclearblue.livejournal.com
On the contrary - brown eyes are my favorite.

You're actually fairly difficult to sort. I should really stop reading the previous votes before I make my own; often I get to the end of the application and make up my mind, and then get all mixed up again once I read the votes that have been cast. :) But anyway. Let's see.

There is one line from your application that really jumped out at me as being very important to this sorting: "I'm often afraid of trying new things for fear of looking stupid." Am I the only one who sees the importance here? There are several houses whose members could be said to have a fear of looking foolish - most notably, I think, Lannister and Tyrell - but how many of these would allow that fear to hold them back? Definitely not a Lannister (think of Tyrion's boldness despite his appearance, and of Jaime jumping into the bear pit to rescue Brienne one-handed), and so that one line from your application would lead me to call you a Tyrell.

You emphasize your romantic side, but despite the fact that Sansa Stark is a romantic, I don't think that's a Starkish trait at all - quite the contrary. Starks are just what their name says - stark, unsubtle, unyielding. We have to keep in mind that Sansa is only half a Stark, being also one-half Tully. Now, the Tullys as a whole aren't tremendously romantic, but take a look at Lysa - her entire life revolved around such things. I would say that Sansa's romanticism, which I see strongly in you, is definitely a Tully trait and not a Stark, despite her surname. But romanticism in general is more applicable to the Tyrells, with their rose gardens and pleasure barges.

And it should also be noted that optimism, which you listed as one of your good qualities, is incredibly un-Starkish. Winter is coming - nothing about that is optimistic. But on the other hand, neither is that a very Tullyish trait; just look at ol' doom-n-gloom Catelyn. (I'm SO glad you don't like her, by the way, she's my least favorite character in the whole series.) Optimism is more of a Tyrell trait - Growing strong.

Therefore, all in all, I name you a Tyrell.

Greyjoy

Date: 2008-11-04 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lextaci.livejournal.com
Romantic, optimistic, and perceptive (which makes me think of the Queen of Thorns), yep; I can see Tyrell.
Edited Date: 2008-11-04 10:53 pm (UTC)

Lannister

Date: 2008-11-05 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deeplyunhip.livejournal.com
Tyrell, definitely. I first got the Rose vibe with your fear of seeming stupid (Lannisters and Tyrells are the image-conscious houses, but I'm fairly sure you're not a Lion) and the rest of the application just served to support it.

Greyjoy

Date: 2008-11-05 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] g0newiththesin9.livejournal.com
Tyrell for you

No house yet

Date: 2008-11-05 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zweihand.livejournal.com
I'm going to say Tyrell, as there's a certain mix of romanticism and practicality in your answers that just seems Tyrell-y to me.

Greyjoy

Date: 2008-11-05 06:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desire-of-nymph.livejournal.com
There was some bits and flashes of Stark, but they were more minor and on the underside of the application. The part of you that practically beat me overhead was without a doubt the flower-power of Tyrell.

Image

Targaryen - the Unburnt

Date: 2008-11-05 09:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trivalent.livejournal.com
Tyrell. I think [livejournal.com profile] guad explains the flower v. fish parts well.

Image

Lannister

Date: 2008-11-05 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladynyks.livejournal.com
Tyrell should do.

Date: 2008-11-05 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fairnymph.livejournal.com
I was very torn, as you have some very Tully-like traits, but I think ultimately Tyrell wins out, for your Romanticism, as explained.

Date: 2008-11-05 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violaswamp.livejournal.com
I waffled between Tully and Tyrell, but ultimately the Tullys are unromantic. So I'll go with Tyrell, who IMO are romantic despite their political scheming.

Martell!

Date: 2008-11-05 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violaswamp.livejournal.com
Sorry, forgot my House!

Martell

Date: 2008-11-06 02:22 am (UTC)
ext_52148: image of bombardier plane with my name on it (loldementor)
From: [identity profile] bluebombardier.livejournal.com
Ffffffffff I'm so late to this voting party.

Tyrell

Tully

Date: 2008-11-06 02:42 am (UTC)
ext_92749: Lina Inverse of The Slayers (Tully2)
From: [identity profile] haremstress.livejournal.com
I was thoroughly stumped and had to read other people's votes. (So bad, I know!) The reasoning for Tyrell swayed me.

Lannister

Date: 2008-11-06 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clytemnestra215.livejournal.com
Apologies for briefness, but I agree with the Tyrell vote.

Tyrell

Date: 2008-11-06 05:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apocalyptically.livejournal.com
Hmm, I can see Tully, yeah, and maybe some Stark. There is overwhelming evidence of Tyrell though. Come join us in Highgarden!

Stark

Date: 2008-11-06 06:32 am (UTC)
ext_32363: "Be it ever so humble, there's no opinion like my own" (Hufflepuff)"Be it ever so humble, there's no opinion like my own (Stark Pride)
From: [identity profile] misstopia.livejournal.com
Hrmm, I think Tyrell will do nicely, with the love and loyalty (they're loyal to each other) and I think you and Olenna would have a mutually appreciative relatinoship. Highgarden it is!

SORTED: TYRELL

Date: 2008-11-06 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deeplyunhip.livejournal.com
Congratulations! After receiving five votes for Tully and seven votes for Stark, you have officially been sorted into House Tyrell with twenty-two votes!

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